In the Holy Smokes Motherland, the book “The Christian Gentleman’s Smoking Companion” was making the rounds. After Steve picked up his own copy, he knew he needed to have its authors Zach Bartels & Ted Kluck on the podcast. Steve sat down with Zach and Ted over Zoom and got an abbreviated episode (Zach had a pastoral counseling session scheduled with one of his church members).

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